Topic: Legacy Support

The problem with a great product that never seems to wear out or lose it's usefulness is that it doesn't generate any income after the initial purchase.

I've had my Dakota card for a long time.  I've bought two Tangos and my Sierra used. 

I wouldn't  consider it unreasonable to pay for driver updates for Win 7 64 in particular or and other improvements to the product that may be achievable via software means.

The only weakness in the Dakota product (for me) is the limited number of real time monitoring outputs that can be configured via the Daktray applet.  I don't know if that is hardware limited or software limited.  Either way, a remedy has value to me and I'd be willing to pay for it.

Would this be something that could be considered?

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They are still making motherboards that support PCI slots and the latest and greatest processors, so I'd also be willing to pay for driver updates to keep my Dakota/Montana around a while longer.

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Dave Modisette wrote:

I wouldn't  consider it unreasonable to pay for driver updates for Win 7 64 in particular or and other improvements to the product that may be achievable via software means.

I would also pay for driver updates to the Dakota/Montana. It's been such a great device for me.

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I have 2 Dakotas (1 with a Montana), and a Wavecenter PCI card.  I would also gladly pay for Win 7 support.  As I understand it from contacts in the Cakewalk SONAR forum, the Vista drivers (even for 64-bit) do not have to be too substantially changed.  Several people are using the Dakota and Dakota/Montana with SONAR under Win 7.  I'm sure if this thread were titled with Windows 7 in the title and more widely broadcast, Frontier would see just how much of their legacy is still being used out there.  I doubt that anybody who currently has a Dakota or a Wavecenter PCI would not pay for Win 7 support.

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If the only other option is to buy a new card with Windows 7 support, then I would also (reluctantly) pay to keep my Wavecenter/PCI card supported. It does everything I need it to, except function problem free in Windows 7...

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Hi,

The Windows 7 updates have taken the back burner the past several months but recently there has been an effort to get this going.  Still no promises but there has been some progress.  The blue screen issue appears to be taken care of but there remains a 24-Bit WDM problem that we would like to take care of before an official driver release. 

CS

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hey guys,

just to add to the post that i would also pay to have proper windows 7 64-bit drivers to work.

please!!!

(currently i have to dual boot between windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit just to record analog audio for my dakota/tango24)

I tried looking for other gear including m-audio but was still disappointed with it's functions.

Please support windows 7 drivers 64-bit.  (i'll pay for support subscriptions yearly)

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Hi mattlok,

We're doing what we can to make this happen but what I don't understand is how you can get the Dakota to work in 32-Bit Windows 7 but not in 64-Bit Windows 7.  Can you explain exactly what works in one version (32-Bit) and what doesn't work in the other version (64-Bit)? 

If you used the Dakota's 32-Bit Vista drivers for Windows 7 32-Bit and can get it to work did you make sure to use the Dakota's 64-Bit Vista drivers for your 64-Bit version of Windows 7?

http://frontierdesign.com/Products/Dakota/Downloads

I guess what I'm getting at is if you can get the 32 bit version to work then you should be able to get the 64-bit version to work.

CS

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hey cs,

sorry for the delay... been too busy...

here is something i wrote to mosspa, maybe this will shed some light.

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Hi Mosspa,

Thanks for the response.

I had to read your post a few times over and tried to draw a diagram to understand your setup.

I appreciate the efforts on the feedback.

Correct me if i am wrong, it sounds like you are moving audio around between systems via ADAT for multitracking which i am not familiar with.

But if i understand this correctly, moving audio via ADAT is not the same is recording analog audio direclty to (LINE IN 1 and 2) on the tango24/dakota.  If you are moving audio around via ADAT then you are really just using the lightpipe to move the data around and not doing direct analog recording from an analog source such as a turntable via DJ mixing board.  Also bouncing audio from your soundboard such as Yamaha o1v to your ADAT recording using dakota as a smtpe sync is also not the same as direct audio recording.

i only use one computer system to produce house music.

- dakota connected to 2 x tango24 --> output channel B7 & B8 --> goes to my yamaha o1v - 1/4" analog channel 15/16 ----> yamaha o1v monitor output ---> sony amp via yamaha NS10 near field monitors

- technics SL-1200 mkII ---> connect to Pioneer DJM-500 (4 channel DJ mixer) output ----> tango24 (input A1 & A2)

- the yamaha o1v is only used to listen thru my NS10
- i use soundforge to record audio samples from vinyl
- i use sony acid 7 pro to do all the production/arrangement internal will no out-board gear or mixdown (with some acceptions to my filter factory)

therefore all the audio is done internally. even the mdi is dumped down to audio format. 

again everything seems to work accept for recording any analog recodings thru the tango24.

gotta run, but will comeback to finish off...

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Hey CS,

My thought were exactly the same.

If it works on Windows 7 32-bit, then it should work on windows 7 64-bit!

And again, everything so far works accept for recording from analog source through the tango24 1/4" inputs using the dakota card.

Also to add into the mix, i have not gotten any one to verfiy the analog recording through their tango24  1/4" inputs using the dakota to work using any 64-bit windows version.

I know the other guy mosspa mentioned ADAT and do audio transfers but that's not recording through the analog 1/4" on the tango24.

I know this is probably a driver issue because again it works fine in Windows 7 32-bit.

thx

matt

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For whatever it is worth!

I'm a very happy owner of a Dakota and Wavecenter PCI Card

with two Tango 24 units and I would be very happy to pay for

Windows 7 32/64 bit driver support.  Paying for the upgrade

is the least we can do to support such a great company.

Frontier Design's Legacy Support has always been outstanding

and I am very excited to see that they are working on this

problem.  I've been wanting to upgrade to Windows 7 64 bit

system but haven't for the singular reason that it won't

support my Frontier Design equipment.  If, (as it seems), the

drivers are updated, I will be changing over from Vista to

Windows 7 immediately.

Thank You for your excellent support!

David

P.S. Will you be notifying us when you have the drivers?

Or should we check here periodically?  Thanks

Last edited by David Toledo (2010-08-31 07:56:10)

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Hi David,

I have created a folder in my inbox for customers who have emailed us about Windows 7 support for our line of cards. When I get any news (hopefully good news) I will reply to everyone who has contacted us via email with a reply.  I will also try and respond to each post on the forum with any news on the subject.

CS